Amazing Apexes

Hi Elsie here,

I always get people asking me how to dress their apex windows.

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They look great admittedly but they are a bit of a pain to dress.

You are restricted but it all depends on what you need the dressing for. You may not need one at all.

However if the apex is in a bedroom or bathroom……………

Option 1

Curtains.

Curtains are shaped into the apex so therefore the heading is unable to move. You have to open and close the curtains via Italian stringing at the sides.

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Surprisingly they do not cut off as much light as you would imagine, but be careful which fabric you pick. Avoid bulky and stiff fabrics and go for something that has a good “drape”.                                The drape is the softness that the fabric hangs in its folds, with as little kick out as possible.

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The fabric here is a Prestigious Poly-cotton. http://www.prestigious.co.uk/. The Zeplin light fitting looks cool too. Pencil pleat heading fitted onto battens with horse shoe hooks for strength. I always use press and drape for added support between the hooks to help stabilise the heading.

I use velcro with pinch pleats as well as hooks.

IMG_0390 This is a crushed velvet type fabric that drapes beautifully.

You tend to have to set them down a smidge when fitting otherwise the forward pleat squashes on the ceiling, a quarter inch and no more should be fine. calculate this in your drop before making.

Expert advice from Clive Pennington  www.classicalgenesis.wordpress.com  =There should have been a sub batten somewhere between one and two cms away from the ceiling so the curtains could be mounted slightly away from the ceiling enabling them to be dressed out into a V shape.

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You can shape around beams.

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http://www.creative-curtains.net/ Pelmets look good also

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http://www.tracksandpoles.com/

Always work out if the curtain will pull back off any doors that are there.

The Italian stringing is always shaped up to the corner (where the heading usually begins).

If you pool the curtains on the floor it gives you luxury and makes it that you do not have to hem on site. I always hem on site with apex curtains that are not pooled or kicking as you cannot guarantee a precise hem for this type of window finished in the workroom. This is because of the way the weight of the curtain hangs on the warp and weft weave can cause a hem to be uneven when in situ.

2.

Shutters

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http://www.etienne.org.uk/

Great for bathroom areas and minimalist looks. If you are worried about light leaking through the slats then there is a bevelled version that interlock that you can get from The New England company.

Custom made  and fitted.

3.

Plisse’ Blinds

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http://www.dersonnenschutz.de

Very similar in its simplicity to shutters but lets more light in. Opens up or down as you can see.

Available in a range of colours. Minimalist and neat.

I would say these are the three best options to dress apex windows.

Measuring these windows is interesting.

1. Draw out the basic shape of the window and the space it fills. Some apexes have wall around and some do not.

2. Plot along the angle (sloping edge) at set spacings, I tend to do do every 2 / 3 inches depending on the size of window. That or take the length and divide it by how many sizes I want to take. Use your own discretion.

3. Measure at these points top to bottom. Yes ALL of them, it will be worth it in the end.

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The shape is wrong here but the concept is the same as an arch

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Just a couple of types of apex you may come across. Some even have beams cutting into them!

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Here are the basic sizes needed. I would recommend the segmented drop sizes being taken when you have the job or before ordering. This saves time and money. You should be able to work out costs off these sizes.

4 . Make sure you have the very centre drop.

5. Measure also the width you are covering.

6. Measure the outside drops which are vertical. Corner to floor.

7. If you can reach take the angle measurements.

You will then need to scale draw this all up to work out your curtains or whatever you decide to do with the window. I would recommend hemming on site if pooling is not being done!!

Be aware of their restrictions before you have one fitted .

Thanks for reading.

Elsie Wolfe

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Blinds, Blinds Glorious Blinds

Hello again it is I Elsie Wolfe. I hope you enjoyed the first blog?

I have been busy this week hunting around the net to see what your big questions are surrounding BLINDS. Some of you are getting confused about which blinds are which, where they are best used and why aren’t yours doing what you thought they would.The main issues, from what I could see, tend to be with Roman blinds. I will address these issues as best as I can later. To begin with I will clear up blind classifications.

1. Roman Blind. Hand made, lined, black out or and interlined. Most fabric can be used to create. They come in several forms. Standard, Cascade, Waterfall and soft folding. Standard roman with pelmet

Standard Roman with a pelmet.

Prestigious Fabric

Even when up you can still see the folds due to tapes and fabric thickness when folding and there will always be a band of 10 / 12 inches, sometimes more when up, so light can be lost.

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Waterfall Roman blind. Designed by www.facebook.com/whitewolfeint

Bigger gaps between the folds to make a feature when up, makes the blind even deeper.

Cascade Roman Blind

Cascade Roman.

Has pleats even when down unlike all other Roman blinds that become flat when down.

Soft Folding Roman Blinds

Soft Folding Roman.

A more casual look created when there are no battens used to create the more classic ridged structured effect normally expected from a Roman.

2. Venetian Blind Wooden or metal horizontal slats that can come in varying sizes, made using tapes or string to pull up the slats. Many companies make them such as Sundew, Sunway or Silent Gliss to name but a few.

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Wooden Venetian blind made with strings.

3. Plisse’ Blind Concertina style blind. Companies only use there own specialist fabric in a single or double layer with wires to lift and lower. They can also be used to close up instead of down. plisee blind

Plisse’ Blind single layer.

Most companies, such as the ones above, make them.

4. Vertical Blind Vertical slats. Come in companies own cloth. My least favourite of the blinds but they do have some very practical applications. There have been recent developments, I have seen ones in wood! The slats or louvres twist open and close as well as sliding open to one or both sides depending on your preference.

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As you can see they come in many colours.

5. Plantation Shutters / Blinds Highly specialised product custom made. In wood or PVC. Slatted, in its own frame and can open and closed via slats or bi-folding. Plantation Shutters. Blind

Wooden plantation.

6. Festoon and Austrian Blind Both very similar and blousy looking. You tend not see this style these days. Austrian blind folds drop out as blind is lowered but a festoon retains its folds. I must admit I am not a fan of this fussy look. Each to their own.

Festoon Blind

Austrian Blind

7. Roller Blind. As long as the fabric is flat and not too thick your choice of cloth can be used and treated to create a roller. In the main the manufacturers fabric is used. There are books full of purpose created fabric for this item. Be aware due to the brackets there will be big gaps at sides, so if you want black out completely you need one with a casement / its own frame. Roller Blind

Casement Roller blind

Left normal, right casement. I recommend reverse rolling a blind to avoid handles and makes the roller at top more discreet. Hope this has cleared any confusion over blinds and their classification you may have had.


Roman Blinds 101

The following information is hopefully going to answer any questions or problems you may have with regards to Roman blinds. They are ones I have noticed cropping up on the net as well as surfacing in my career. I have put images of blinds throughout. These are ones I have designed or ones I just like, I hope you like them too.

Before I delve into the world of Roman Blind trouble shooting I would like to tell you a little story of something that happened to me a few years back that I hope you enjoy and can take something away with you.


The Blinds that were too good to be true

I priced up some blinds for a friend of mine for her conservatory and gave her the best price I could. I included the cost for head-rails and fitting. My friend (very sensibly) got a few prices and found one cheaper with similar fabric, I could not lower my price further. I did ask her to check the quality of the lining, fittings and manufacturing.

“Ask to see a blind they have made?” I recommended before she placed an order.

I explained that even though I possibly was not the cheapest, I was one of the best and to make sure her pricing was like for like. I also said if the price is that much cheaper it will be for a reason and to make sure they were reasons that she was happy with.

A few weeks later I received a call from my friend asking me to come and look at her blinds, I did.

They were not very good at all, but not wanting to hurt her feelings I asked what she thought of them and was she happy. My friend was a little worried, she explained that there was something wrong with them but she didn’t know how or why that was.

“They just don’t look right” she said.

I explained that I did not want to pass comment before she had because the main thing was that she liked them but seeing as she did not I said I agreed with her, they were not right at all.

I took out my tape measure and checked a few of them, inspected them fully, lifted and lowered.

The person that she had ordered them from was coming round to chat about them and my friend wanted me to sit in. I was a touch uncomfortable with this but I said I would listen and advise after.

The gentleman came.  My friend reiterated her concerns and the gentleman said there was nothing wrong with the blinds. The fabric (a plain poly cotton) was not the best choice for a Roman and this was the look of them. Also that he would not recommend blinds this big.

I was not happy to say the least! So I felt I had to speak up. I explained who I was and got out my tape measure  explaining that the biggest problem was with the smaller blinds not being made straight so they would not hang or pull up straight, gaps between battens varied causing this. There was nothing wrong with the fabric that if it had been made straight there would have been no bellowing. The larger blinds would have been fine if a more substantial batten had been used as opposed to a flimsy plastic / carbon one. This would have stopped the bowing, also having more cord pulls to support the blind would have rendered more support.

The man said he would take our comments, talk to head office and call us.

They did not want to remake them and did not take the remaining balance off my friend in compensation. I personally would have asked for a refund because they were just not right, but the choice was my friend’s.

Moral of the story. Go off recommendation, try and view a company’s product so you can see the quality before hand and make sure you are fully aware of what a product is going to look like as much as you can as well as understanding how it will function, before you purchase.


Back to Roman blinds and how they work.

There are 2 main systems.

1 = on a head rail with a chain pull. I personally recommend Evans or Silent Gliss .

2= the traditional cleat and acorn (you wrap the cords around a metal cleat on the wall). These can be helpful on some bays and situations where you do not want the blind to project too far forward.

Even though it is a bit more expensive I tend to go for the rail in most situations. The rail does the work and not you so the blind lifts and lowers the same and not wonky. The rail also can increase the life of the blind.

CORDS

So many times have clients come in saying that the cords have snapped on the traditional version, this is mostly caused by misuse. Not pulling cords straight down, letting go of the cords causing the blind to drop abruptly and snap the cords. Not pulling cords all together causes the blind not pull up evenly.

If the cords are pulled together but blind is still wonky it will probably be one of two things.

1. The cords on the back of the blind need equalizing (very easy to do)

2. The blind has not been made straight (Potential remake).

HOW THEY FIT AND WORK IN A RECESS

Most windows are not 100% true. Blinds are made true so they function correctly. When a Roman is made the most narrow points of the window are used and a small deduction is taken again so the blind does not rub on the recess.  This deduction causes some gaping (that may vary depending on the accuracy of the window). This in turn can cause light leakage on Black out Romans. On black out Romans you also get a row of pin dots, this can be reduced with interlining and stab stitching. Stab stitching the Roman reduces the quantity of holes and the interlining closes around the stitches reducing light leakage. Curtains on tops will assist also.

Roman Blind behind a curtain

Silk Roman inside recess. Outside curtains.

(For maximum black out use a casement blind)

If you have a window that runs out a lot I would recommend putting the blind on the outside of the recess and hanging it past the sill if possible. Doing this hides the problem as well as taking less light off the window. I also feel if it is the only window dressing it finishes off the window better.

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Blinds in and out of a recess. VN Seville plain fabric.

https://www.villanova.co.uk/

Roman Blind with co-ordinating silk border inder a pelmet

Harlequin Silk.

http://www.harlequin.uk.com 

Roman Blind double window

As you can see outside recess Romans look great especially with a pelmet. I feel Romans also look best in bays (better than any other blinds). They also work really well in box bays and bays where the blinds fit even closer than shown below.

Roman Blinds in a bay

Swaffer silk plain. Double bordered.

www.swaffer.co.uk/

Box bay style windows.

Box bay Roman blinds

 

Please note that when you are either making or advising the use of blinds please ensure the BS safety regulations? I refer to Child Safety Requirements for Internal Blinds BS EN 13120, BS EN16433 and BS EN 16434.

Good luck with your Roman blinds.

Please email or leave a comment if you have any queries that are not covered in the above post and I will respond as soon as I can. Hope you enjoyed the post.

E.D.Wolfe

 

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